Gosar cares about Arizonans? Well, there's a first time for everything*.

* = unless they follow his preferred religion and possess his preferred skin color.

From Twitter -

He tweeted this after he spoke at a gathering of far right-wingers....in Hungary.

From the Arizona Mirror written by Jerod MacDonald-Evoy dated 5/5/2023 -

Arizona Republicans travel to Hungary for far-right conference

At the Hungarian edition of the Conservative Political Action Conference, Arizona is on center stage as U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar and failed gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake will share a stage with the leader of a far-right Austrian party founded by former Nazis. 

The Freedom Party of Austria, or FPÖ, was founded in 1956 by former officers of the Schutzstaffel, or SS, the paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany. The party has staked out far-right policies on immigration, the government and Muslim immigrants. 

Hungary shares a border, on its south, with countries that Gosar probably doesn't care about.

Countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, and 

From Google -

Hungary shares a border with a country that our Paul *does* care about.  At least, he tweets and speechifies about it often.  Pretty sure it's not really a threat to Hungary...or the country that has invaded it.  

Also from Google -

Gosar likes to blame Ukraine for Vladimir Putin's invasion of it.

AZBlueMeanie at Blog for Arizona has more on the appearance by Gosar and others here.

Republican says he has PTSD from election denier threats over the 2020 election

Caveat: I'm not a fan of Gates or the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, but I don't wish PTSD on anyone.

From Business Insider -

An Arizona GOP official relentlessly threatened by election deniers after the 2020 presidential race says he has PTSD

A Republican official in Arizona revealed that he was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder after election deniers targeted him and his family as a result of the 2020 presidential race.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Bill Gates, the current chair of the influential Maricopa County Board of Supervisors — which has jurisdiction over one of the most politically-competitive counties in the United States — spoke of the challenges that he faced as a result of backing the integrity of the countywide vote in 2020.

Kari Lake, a failed AZ gubernatorial candidate and one of AZ's biggest election deniers, diminishes Gates by retweeting thing that deride the WaPo article as a "puff piece."

The GOP has a new/old dance move - the IOKIYAR two-step

It's hardly a new thing for them, but now they're applying it to judicial ethics.

From AP, dated 5/2/2023 -

Overhaul of Supreme Court ethics runs into GOP opposition

Senate Democrats promised Tuesday to pursue stronger ethics rules for the 

Supreme Court in the wake of reports that Justice Clarence Thomas 

participated in luxury vacations and a real estate deal with a top GOP donor. 

Republicans made clear they strongly oppose the effort.

Sen. Dick Durbin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, 

said lax ethical standards have created a lack of public confidence in the 

nation’s highest court.

“The Supreme Court could step up and fix this themselves,” Durbin said as 

he opened the hearing. “For years, they have refused, and because the 

court will not act, Congress must.”

Republicans, however, criticized the hearing as an effort to destroy the

 reputation of Thomas, one of the staunchest conservative voices on the 

court. Their comments showed how unlikely it is that Congress will pass 

legislation on the matter, with the parties worlds apart when it comes to 

the credibility of the Supreme Court, particularly after the seismic 

decision last June that overturned abortion rights.

There *is* a partisan division on the subject of  ethics for justices on the Supreme Court.

From The Hill -

Pence vows to stand behind ‘principled jurist’ Clarence Thomas amid scrutiny

Former Vice President Mike Pence vowed to stand behind Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas on Saturday, as the justice faces criticism cent reports about his close relationship with GOP megadonor Harlan Crow.

“Ever since his nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991 Justice Thomas has been maliciously attacked by the Left, including by then Sen. Joe Biden,” Pence tweeted. “The attacks on his character are continuing today, and it’s appalling to see.” 

Thomas’ nomination hearings, which were led by then-Sen. Joe Biden as head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, were particularly fraught due to sexual harassment allegations made by Anita Hill. Hill worked with Thomas at the Department of Education and Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

“I stand with Justice Clarence Thomas and call on every American to join me in defending this good man and principled jurist,” Pence added. 

It's not just Pence, either. 

From Roll Call, dated 5/2/2023 -

Senate panel splits on power to force Supreme Court ethics code

Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee spent a hearing Tuesday making the case for legislation that would put the Supreme Court under an ethics code if the justices didn’t do so themselves, but witnesses were split as to whether Congress has the power to do so.

The backers of proposed bills argued that the justices have waited for too long to impose their own ethics code, exemplified by recent reports about undisclosed luxury trips and a real estate transaction Justice Clarence Thomas received from a billionaire GOP donor.

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Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., said creating an ethics code for the court may create a “cottage industry” of advocates filing ethics complaints in cases strategically, making it “ripe for seeding the field with politicization of the Supreme Court.”

Tillis said he could not imagine the Founding Fathers supporting such a check on the justices.

“That seems to be far afield from anything the Founding Fathers would have considered appropriate,” Tillis said.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, the top Republican on the committee, said he would oppose any effort by Congress to legislate ethical rules for the Supreme Court and called Democrats' concerns part of a “concentrated effort” to undermine the court more broadly.

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Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., drew parallels between Tuesday’s hearing and Democrats’ opposition to Judge Robert Bork’s failed Supreme Court nomination in the 1980s, the “high-tech lynching” of Thomas during his initial confirmation and opposition to recent Republican-appointed justices.

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In a floor speech Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., tied Democrats’ concerns to decades of dissatisfaction with Republican judges.

Clarence Thomas, and other Republican judges with ethics problems, can always count on other Rs to protect them from accountability for their actions.

From a HuffPost article on the subject, dated 5/1/2023 -

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Thomas has also repeatedly failed to file financial disclosures properly. In 2011, he reportedly failed to disclose the income that his wife, Ginni Thomas, received from a mix of conservative think tanks, political groups and educational entities over 13 years.

Despite all of this, Republican senators seem content to let the nation’s highest court carry on as it currently is. Some are dismissing Democrats’ latest efforts as purely political. Some argue it wouldn’t be constitutional for lawmakers to meddle in the court’s affairs.

“Ohhh, I don‘t know about that,” Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) said of Murkowski’s proposal. “Separation of powers?”

“There’s a reason the separate branches of government were established,” said [Sen. Cynthia] Lummis [R-WY]. “Good heavens, they’re judges. This is something they can and should do on their own.”

[Sen Chuck] Grassley [R-IA] said it would be “inappropriate and unnecessary” for senators to take any action to impose ethics rules on Supreme Court justices because of the new disclosure regulations put in place for federal courts last month.

Respect for the Supreme Court, or any other court, for that matter, is based primarily on its credibility.

And Chief Justice John Roberts' diligence in protecting his court and fomenting a culture of corruption there on serves to undermine the credibility of *all* US courts.

Some fake electors in GA get immunity: guessing that Trump and his camp don't need laxatives at this point

From CNN -

At least 8 fake electors have been granted immunity in the Georgia Trump investigation

At least eight of the Republican “fake electors” in Georgia have accepted immunity deals in an ongoing criminal investigation into efforts by Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election there, according to a new court filing.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis had previously notified all 16 GOP fake electors in Georgia that they were targets in her investigation. Last month, Willis offered immunity deals to several of the Republicans who served as pro-Trump electors and they accepted, according to the filing.

Except the farter-in-chief.  He has probably never needed laxatives.

Legislative schedule - week starting 5/7/2023 - Break in the budget impasse?

This post is early this week because there may be some action on the budget.

Jerod Macdonald-Evoy of the Arizona Mirror has some details here.

Note: HHR refers to a hearing room in the House building; SHR refers to one in the Senate building.

Note2: Generally, I'll only specify bills that look to spread propaganda.  Other bills may be more conventionally bad (think: corrupt or other misuses of public monies and/or authority.  My recommendation is that if an agenda covers an area of interest to you, read the entire agenda.

Note3: Each chamber's respective Rules Committee meets on Monday, the House's in HHR4 at 1 p.m. and the Senate's in Senate Caucus Room 1, also at 1 p.m.  Both committees serve as rubber stamps for bills leadership wants to be advanced and gatekeepers for measures that leadership wants stopped.

Note4: Meeting start times may be listed, but are flexible.  Before journeying to the Capitol or viewing the meeting online, verify the start time.

Note5: Watch for strikers, or strike everything amendments.  Those involve inserting language that replaces the entirety of a bill.  Those can be introduced at any time and can make a previously harmless bill into a very bad one. 

On Monday,  5/8 

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House Rules meets at 1 p.m. in HHR4.  No bills directly on the agenda, but there is one interesting item there - 

As one can see from the pic above, the lege has floor sessions scheduled for Monday, and may do so for Tuesday.  Right now, both the House and Senate have full Republican caucuses.  They can pass things with only R votes.

Things after that will depend on the status of Sen. Wendy Rogers.  On Wednesday, May 10, there will be a hearing on her restraining order against a reporter investigating Rogers' residency.

I'm guessing that she planned to be a no show at the hearing so she wouldn't have to testify under oath about her residency.  My thinking was "no testimony = no perjury."

Turns out that a petition for a restraining order has to be filed under penalty for perjury.

On Tuesday, 5/9 thru Thursday 5/12 -

Nada scheduled

Arizona getting (mostly) national exposure, and (mostly) not in a good way

...First up, the national debt ceiling, something used by MAGA types and other ideological terrorists to threaten America.

From Politico -

Biden beware: Manchin and Sinema align with Republicans in debt negotiations

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema saved the filibuster and cut down President Joe Biden’s agenda, delighting Republicans. Now they’re breaking with Democrats on the debt limit, and Republicans hope they keep it coming.

The two centrists, who spent Biden’s first two years in office at odds with the left, are glaring outliers on the debt drama in the party’s 51-member Senate caucus. While their Democratic colleagues insist on no negotiations until the debt ceiling is lifted, Manchin and Sinema are not only pushing for a bipartisan deal but positioning themselves as potential players in any future Senate talks on a way out of the crisis.

Referring to Manchin and Sinema as "centrists" is mislabeling them.  Better to refer to them by what they are - "Republicans in everything but name."

...Why do we keep electing Paul Gosar?

From the Southern Poverty Law Center -

CONGRESSMEN TO MIX WITH LEADER OF FPÖ, A PARTY 

FOUNDED BY NAZIS

At CPAC Hungary this week, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona and Rep. 

Barry Moore of Alabama will speak alongside a global collection of 

radical-right figures, including the leader of an Austrian political party 

founded by Nazi SS officers.

CPAC Hungary, an offshoot of the U.S.-based Conservative Political Action 

Conference, puts that country’s autocratic Prime Minister Viktor Orbán in a 

global spotlight for a second consecutive year, surrounding him with 

like-minded figures from across the world. Orbán is an authoritarian leader 

whom Tucker Carlson regularly lauded on his show before Fox News 

canceled it last month. In addition to Orbán’s history of corruption and 

hostility to press freedom, he has given voice to the great replacement 

conspiracy theory espoused by radical-right extremists.

...Arizona, back to being punch line material for the rest of the country.

From the NBC series Night Court, broadcast on May 2, via TVFanatic, emphasis added by me -

Olivia: Where do you feel most safe?
Gurgs: Uh, the basement level of Bed, Bath, and Beyond; the world of aquatic birds at the Bronx Zoo; and this court.
Olivia: Yes! You love this court! It’s the thing I understand least about you, and you love Daylight Savings Time.
Gurgs: Well, I love anything that Arizona is not involved in.

Olivia is played by India de Beaufort and Gurgs is plated by Lacretta

...There's one good thing; at least, the geek in me thinks it's good. :)

From KPNX, written by Kevin Reagan -

Fontes officially declares Thursday as 'Star Wars Day' in Arizona

Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes has officially declared Thursday as "Star Wars Day" in the Grand Canyon State. 

The proclamation coincides with May 4, a day often associated with the beloved 1977 film due to a classic line spoken by Alec Guinness' Obi-Wan Kenobi character. 

The line was "may the Force be with yo."

State Sen. Wendy Rogers has a command appearance scheduled in Flagstaff that she may blow off

 Journalists accepting a gig in AZ will need something when they come here - sunblock.

And if they're assigned to the Capitol beat, they'll need something else - a snow shovel, as they'll be dealing with some very sensitive snowflakes that will melt, not in the heat of Arizona, but in the heat of competent reporting.

From the Arizona Republic via Yahoo! (written by Ray Stern and dated 4/21) -

Reporter investigating where state Sen. Wendy Rogers lives in Arizona hit with restraining order

Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers, R-Flagstaff, has convinced a judge to issue an order barring a reporter from contacting her at home.

Flagstaff Justice Court Magistrate Judge Amy Criddle signed the restraining order April 19 against Camryn Sanchez, who covers the state Senate for the Arizona Capitol Times, after a petition from Rogers, R-Flagstaff. Criddle's order doesn't appear to show Sanchez doing anything out of the ordinary in her job as a reporter.

Note: There was some difference between the news stories on this matter.  Some referred to Criddle as a JP; some referred to her as a judge on the Flagstaff City Court bench.  As it turns out, she is a city court judge who also works as a pro-tem (temporary) Justice of the Peace.

There will be a hearing on May 10 in Flagstaff to consider whether the order should continue.

From the Arizona Daily Sun (written by Howard Fischer of Capitol Media Services, dated 4/28) -

Flagstaff judge to hear arguments in Wendy Rogers' court order vs. reporter

A Flagstaff judge will hear arguments on May 10 whether to dissolve a court order that keeps an Arizona Capitol Times reporter away from the three homes of Republican state Sen. Wendy Rogers.

The hearing will be the first opportunity for the attorney for Camryn Sanchez to question Rogers about her allegations that the reporter had harassed her by going to houses that the senator admitted she owns in Maricopa County to check where she actually is living.

This has earned the attention of other reporters.  From Twitter -

Also from Twitter -

I'm guessing that Rogers won't attend and the order will be vacated - testifying under oath about anything may be something she wants to avoid.

Of course, she could choose another path - resign her position.

It may be honorable, but I don't recommend that anyone hold their breath while waiting for that to happen.

No one's ever accused Rogers of being honorable.

Legislative schedule - week starting 4/30/2023

This post is early this week because I'll be working on another project.  Plus, the lege has very little on their schedule. :)

Same as last week -

Nada.  No bills under consideration.  

For legislative committee meetings, there's nothing scheduled for this week, though that could change on a moment's notice (so keep an eye out as the lege has been known to get sneaky).

Actually, they don't even have floor sessions on tap for Monday though they may have floor sessions later in the week (that happened last week) to consider and pass bills that will be vetoed by Governor Hobbs.

The only thing they have left is the same thing they began the session to do - the state's budget, and that could come down at any time.

Note: HHR refers to a hearing room in the House building; SHR refers to one in the Senate building.

Note2: Generally, I'll only specify bills that look to spread propaganda.  Other bills may be more conventionally bad (think: corrupt or other misuses of public monies and/or authority.  My recommendation is that if an agenda covers an area of interest to you, read the entire agenda.

Note3: Each chamber's respective Rules Committee meets on Monday, the House's in HHR4 at 1 p.m. and the Senate's in Senate Caucus Room 1, also at 1 p.m.  Both committees serve as rubber stamps for bills leadership wants to be advanced and gatekeepers for measures that leadership wants stopped.

Note4: Meeting start times may be listed, but are flexible.  Before journeying to the Capitol or viewing the meeting online, verify the start time.

Note5: Watch for strikers, or strike everything amendments.  Those involve inserting language that replaces the entirety of a bill.  Those can be introduced at any time and can make a previously harmless bill into a very bad one. 

On Monday, 5/1 and Tuesday, 5/2 -

Nada scheduled.

On Wednesday, 5/3 

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Joint Legislative Budget Committee (JLBC) meets at 1 p.m. in HHR4.  No bills on the agenda; five reviews to be conducted via the consent agenda and no testimony on those items will be accepted; one other review is probably going to devolve into a propaganda-fest for conspiracy theorists.  Its title?  "SECRETARY OF STATE - Review of Election Services Line Item Transfer"

Joint Committee on Capital Review (JCCR) meets at 1:15 p.m. or upon adjournment of JLBC in HHR1.  No bills on the agenda.  Two items to be reviewed; both on the consent agenda with no testimony accepted.

Joint Legislative Ad Hoc Study Committee on Water Security meets at 2 p.m. in HHR4.  No bills on the agenda.  Two presentations.

On Thursday, 5/4 -

Nada scheduled.

Celebrate National Library Week by reading a challenged or banned book

From The Hill -

Here are the top 10 books banned in 2022

The American Library Association (ALA) kicked off National Library Week on Monday by releasing its State of America’s Libraries Report, which details an increase in book bans in 2022 and the top 10 books that were censored last year. 

The top banned books were censored mostly due to LGBTQ content or claims they are sexually explicit, according to the ALA. Profanity, drugs and sex education were also mentioned in efforts to ban the books on the list. 

The ALA's  top 13 list of challenged books in 2022 is available on their press release (it was going to be a top 10 list, but because of ties... :) ) -

Below are the most Top 13 Most Challenged Books of 2022:

1. “Gender Queer,” by Maia Kobabe
   Reasons: LGBTQIA+ content, claimed to be sexually explicit

2. “All Boys Aren’t Blue,” by George M. Johnson
   Reasons: LGBTQIA+ content, claimed to be sexually explicit

3. “The Bluest Eye,” by Toni Morrison
   Reasons: depiction of sexual abuse, claimed to be sexually explicit, EDI content

4. “Flamer,” by Mike Curato
   Reasons: LGBTQIA+ content, claimed to be sexually explicit

5. (TIE) “Looking for Alaska,” by John Green
   Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit, LGBTQIA+ content

        5. (TIE) “The Perks of Being a Wallflower,” by Stephen Chbosky

             Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit, LGBTQIA+ content, depiction of sexual       abuse, drugs, profanity

        7.  “Lawn Boy,” by Jonathan Evison

             Reasons: LGBTQIA+ content, claimed to be sexually explicit

        8.  “The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian,” by Sherman Alexie

             Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit, profanity

        9.  “Out of Darkness,” by Ashley Hope Perez

             Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit

       10. (TIE) “A Court of Mist and Fury,” by Sarah J. Maas

              Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit

       10. (TIE) “Crank,” by Ellen Hopkins

             Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit, drugs

       10. (TIE) “Me and Earl and the Dying Girl,” by Jesse Andrews

             Reasons: Claimed to be sexually explicit, profanity

       10. (TIE) “This Book is Gay,” by Juno Dawson

             Reasons: LGBTQIA+ content, sex education, claimed to be sexually explicit

Paul Gosar - not just an embarrassment in the state or the country; he's going international now

From Haaretz, dated 4/17/2023 -

GOP Lawmaker Spreads Blatant Antisemitism, Invokes Nazis on Holocaust Remembrance Day

 Rep. Paul Gosar, long considered among the most extreme Republicans in Congress and closely linked with white nationalists and avowed antisemites, accused the Biden administration of aiding a supposed Nazi regime in Ukraine while criticizing U.S. efforts to provide assistance to Ukraine amid Russia’s invasion.

“$100 billion of your tax money is going to help Nazis,” Gosar wrote in his weekly newsletter published Sunday morning, one day before Holocaust Remembrance Day. “I will never support Nazis and I condemn our country’s support and military aid to Nazis.”

Someone's running for POTUS...and that would be a step down if he wins

Note: I don't normally mock candidates for office simply for declaring that candidacy (in person, I tend to be shy and quiet, just not hypocritical), but on this one, the temptation was too strong. :)

From an FEC organizational filing -

Note2: In addition to being the committee's custodian of records, Snider is the candidate.

Now, I'm not an expert on religion, but I'm pretty sure that "President" isn't on the level of "Messiah". :)

Legislative schedule - week starting 4/13/2023

Same as last week -

Nada.  No bills under consideration.  

For legislative committee meetings, there's nothing scheduled for this week, though that could change on a moment's notice (so keep an eye out as the lege has been known to get sneaky).

Actually, they don't even have floor sessions on tap for Monday though they may have floor sessions later in the week to consider and pass bills that will be vetoed by Governor Hobbs.

The only thing they have left is the same thing they began the session to do - the state's budget, and that could come down at any time.

Note: HHR refers to a hearing room in the House building; SHR refers to one in the Senate building.

Note2: Generally, I'll only specify bills that look to spread propaganda.  Other bills may be more conventionally bad (think: corrupt or other misuses of public monies and/or authority.  My recommendation is that if an agenda covers an area of interest to you, read the entire agenda.

Note3: Each chamber's respective Rules Committee meets on Monday, the House's in HHR4 at 1 p.m. and the Senate's in Senate Caucus Room 1, also at 1 p.m.  Both committees serve as rubber stamps for bills leadership wants to be advanced and gatekeepers for measures that leadership wants stopped.

Note4: Meeting start times may be listed, but are flexible.  Before journeying to the Capitol or viewing the meeting online, verify the start time.

Note5: Watch for strikers, or strike everything amendments.  Those involve inserting language that replaces the entirety of a bill.  Those can be introduced at any time and can make a previously harmless bill into a very bad one. 

On Monday. 4/24 

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Senate Director Nominations meets at 10 a.m. in SHR109.  One nomination scheduled for consideration/inquisition: Ben Henry as director of the Department of Liquor Licenses and Control.  Not sure if this is intended as a shot across the bow directed at Governor Hobbs for her vetoing so many bills  or a peace offering as part of the negotiations on a budget..  

However, considering the history of the committee chair, Jake Hoffman, as an Always Trumper and a fake elector in 2020, the "shot" part wouldn't be a surprise.

Joint Legislative Ad Hoc Committee on Air Quality and Energy meets at 1:30 p.m.in SHR1.  No bills on the agenda.  Scheduled to receive a presentation from the Maricopa Association of Governments (MAG) on "Ozone Nonattainment Designation for the Maricopa County."

MAG's press release on the topic is here.

I can't say that the House doesn't take air pollution seriously, but they've at once abandoned the committee and desginated as the committee co-chair someone who regularly caters to industrial interests.

On Tuesday, 4/25 and Wednesday,  4/26 -

Nada scheduled.

On Thursday, 4/27 

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Senate Judiciary meets at 9:30 a.m. in SHR1.  No bills on the agenda, just consideration of one appointment to one commission, the Commission On Trial Court Appointments, Maricopa County.

So who will be Cheeto's running mate in 2024?

Time for some idle speculation.

Current frontrunners:

Kari Lake.   The failed 2022 candidate has traveled the country, serve as Cheeto's surrogate.

    Pluses: Is female and is from a state that Cheeto needs to win in a general election.  Plus she regularly pushes Cheeto's "big lie" and whines almost as he does.

    Negatives: Isn't blonde.  Lost her election.  Won't help in the primary, because Cheeto will win the AZ primary which I expect him to win no matter what.

Greg Abbott.  The current governor of Texas.

    Pluses: Hates people of color and immigrants almost as much as Cheeto.  Wins elections.

    Negatives: Cheeto will win the general election in Texas no matter who's on the ticket with him.

    

Others in the mix :

Kristi Noem, the current governor of South Dakota.  She's as nuts as Cheeto.

Marjorie Taylor Greene.  Currently in Congress.  Makes Noem look sane.

Ron DeSantis, currently Florida's Governor and a presumed presidential candidate in 2024.  He and Cheeto aren't fans of each other, so if this happens, it will be a cynical move by both.

Tommy Tuberville.  Currently in the US Senate.  Cheeto likes to think that he's smarter than others.  In Tuberville's case, that belief might actually be true.

Gym Jordan.  Currently in Congress.  His penchant for looking the other way when facing sexual predators may endear him to Cheeto.

Kyrsten Sinema.  Currently in the US Senate.  A former Democrat who may be as self-centered as Cheeto.

Not gonna happen, either because Cheeto won't have them, or there's no way in hell that they'd take the gig:

Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and any R who voted to impeach him. Mike Pence.

There will be others in the mix as this early speculation.